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Richard Russell
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Re: calculation puzzle
« Reply #31 on: Dec 31st, 2015, 7:14pm » |
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on Dec 31st, 2015, 5:47pm, Chris Iverson wrote:| If you truly weren't informed of why you were banned, then I apologize for my statement. |
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I never received any direct communication. Unexpectedly I found I was unable to send PMs. Unexpectedly I found that I had been banned by IP address. There was no warning or explanation on either occasion.
Quote:| I made it following this logic.... Make it seem like you have decided to ignore the decision.... |
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In my opinion there has been far too much 'deducing' of my motives. It would have been much fairer to ask me. You could have still chosen to disbelieve me, but at least I would have had an opportunity to put my case.
Quote:| you explicitly bring up ways to get around that decision! |
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You said that the reason for banning me by IP address was to prevent me from opening new accounts. I pointed out that it achieved no such thing because it was so easily bypassed using any of those methods. So now you conclude that it was actually my intention to do so (despite not actually having done it in the intervening months)! An entirely unjustified conclusion based, I can only assume, on a belief that I am dishonest and untrustworthy.
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Chris Iverson
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Re: calculation puzzle
« Reply #32 on: Dec 31st, 2015, 8:19pm » |
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on Dec 31st, 2015, 7:14pm, Richard Russell wrote:| You said that the reason for banning me by IP address was to prevent me from opening new accounts. I pointed out that it achieved no such thing because it was so easily bypassed using any of those methods. So now you conclude that it was actually my intention to do so (despite not actually having done it in the intervening months)! An entirely unjustified conclusion based, I can only assume, on a belief that I am dishonest and untrustworthy. |
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I did not say that was your intention. I said it made it seem that way.
What you said about the IP ban is perfectly, and technically true.
The thing is, you are using a purely technical, factual argument against a statement that explains why an action was taken. (Or, at least, my statement wasn't intended to be separated from the "why", even if it was unwritten. I thought the "why" was understood by the rest of the post. I apologize if I was unclear.)
The "why" is "because you continued to make new accounts after being banned, and continued breaking the rules in those new accounts".
In other words, my full statement, with that 'why' meaning appended, is "you were IP banned to prevent you from making new accounts, because you continued to make new accounts after being banned, and continued breaking the rules in those new accounts".
Your response to this, I believe, was intended to be something like "but that does not actually restrict me from making new accounts. What you said is false, because the limitation you mention is not true."
Your response is true, but it doesn't invalidation the reason we took the action, the "why", and it's possible to interpret your comment in that context.
In the context of using it to reply to the "why", it comes across as "You used an IP ban to prevent me from making more accounts and breaking your rules, but I can still make new accounts anyway, and continue to break your rules."
My comment was made in the context of the discussion of the rules, and while I didn't assume yours had been, as well, what I state above is the meaning I would end up at if it is taken in context.
It was already clear that that was not what you meant, but that's how it can come across.
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Re: calculation puzzle
« Reply #33 on: Jan 4th, 2016, 09:53am » |
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on Dec 31st, 2015, 12:35am, Richard Russell wrote:In that case I formally request that the IP-address ban against me be lifted.
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The IP ban has been lifted.
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Re: calculation puzzle
« Reply #34 on: Jan 4th, 2016, 3:25pm » |
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on Jan 4th, 2016, 09:53am, AAW wrote:| The IP ban has been lifted. |
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A step in the right direction?
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